Ue tier 2 French Tank Destroyer - posted in General Discussion: So I have been wondering: “I see a lot of Ue td’s in training rooms but I don’t know how to get it.”so how do you get it? By using our services, you agree to our use of cookies. The prototype of the M10 was conceived in early 1942, being delivered in April of that year. The Renault FT had a long life and saw use in World War II and even later in Indochina. They also fielded a heavy tank design, and several lighter types for scouting and infantry support. The free French gravely disrupted, from the beginning, Rommel's offensive, resulting on a disturbed supply line of the Afrika Korps. Leclerc and de Gaulle had to persuade Eisenhower to send Leclerc's 2nd Armored Division and they entered Paris, and the liberation by Leclerc help cement de Gaulle's claim as leader of the French.[13]. The M10 tank destroyer was an American tank destroyer of World War II. A tank destroyer having the same 120-mm gun armament as the tank was thought to be unnecessary. The last 35 new battle tanks were in 1989 ordered by Cyprus and the last new variant vehicles, a batch of twenty GCTs, in 1994 by France. A rift formed between France and West Germany following Charles de Gaulle's decision that France would no longer participate in NATO, with West Germany opposing a standardised common tank project. The 21st and 25. Cookies help us deliver our services. [3] The first two classes had top speeds of 28 to 29 knots that were insufficient to keep up with the Dunkerque and Richelieu class capital ships that were being built in the late 1920s. [7][8] Rommel continued to advance against delaying actions by the British until halted at First Battle of El Alamein in July. At least one prototype was built, which took part in the military parade in Paris on July 14, 1950. Later in the line, they gain tough frontal armor along with increased speed, but retain the good guns. By the mid-1930s the French Army was replacing the aging FT fleet with a mixed force of light tanks both in the Infantry and Cavalry branches, as well as medium and heavy tanks. World of Tanks French Tank Destroyers. In December 1915, the influential Colonel Estienne made the Supreme Command very enthusiastic about the idea of creating an armoured force based on these vehicles; strong Army support for tanks would be a constant during the decades to come. Edit. It was constructed from well-sloped, mainly cast, armour sections, that … De Gaulle used it to delegitimize cooperation with the Vichy regime. The French 2nd Armored Division (French: 2e Division Blindée, 2e DB), was commanded by General Philippe Leclerc, one of the best French tank commanders. When it transpired the attack was really a feint and the forces in the north were in danger of being cut off by the German advance south of Namur, the 1st DLM that had very quickly moved 200 kilometres to the north to help the Dutch, was hurriedly rushed south again. Such a heavy set of tasks was overwhelming, and greatly reduced the effectiveness of the tanks. tank destroyer translation in English-French dictionary. The French are, after us, the best soldiers! After the liberation of France in 1944 an armoured unit was raised, the 13e Régiment de Dragons, using French matériel, among which were seventeen S 35s. Combat tanks providing the basis for dedicated tank destroyers of the war are also included in this list. Originally, 300 AMX-30s were ordered by the French Army, and by 1971 the order had been increased to 900, divided between eight batches, including all variants based on the chassis. The French 2nd Armored Division was formed around a core of units that had raided Italian Libya since the end of 1940 to entering Tripoli 1943 under Leclerc, but was known for its fight at Kufra in 1941; later renamed the 2nd Light Division, in August 1943, it was organized under the US light armored division organization. At the start of hostilities in World War II, the French Navy had 71 destroyers in operation with 27 more under construction. AMX-30 production occurred at the Atelier de Construction de Roanne in the town of Roanne. From the late 1940s to the early 1950s, France was developing heavy tank destroyers. The French also experimented with various tank designs, such as the Frot-Laffly landship, Boirault machine and Souain experiment. The delays in the offensive caused by the relentless French resistance increased the British chances of success and eased the preparation of the counter-offensive. Of these about 288 were in front-line service at the beginning of the Battle of France, with the three armoured divisions of the Cavalry, the Divisions Légères Mécaniques or Mechanised Light Divisions ("light" here meaning "mobile"). This was nearly the opposite of German doctrine, which stressed initiative and decision-making at low command levels (Auftragstaktik). [11] They were used in the Russian Revolution by both the Bolsheviks and the White Russians, and later by the Finns against the Soviets. Almost 80 percent of French tanks did not have radios, since the battle doctrine employed by the French military was more a slow-paced, deliberate conformance to planned maneuvers. As the French Army's vast fleet of Renault FT tanks passed into obsolence, some efforts were made to upgrade the vehicles. Two further prototypes were produced in 1984; the last, fourth, was fabricated in 1985. The ARL 44s equipped the 503e Régiment de Chars de Combat stationed in Mourmelon-le-Grand and replaced seventeen Panther tanks used earlier by that unit. Even stock gun has a decent penetration of 171mm on standard, and 239mm on premium rounds. On the night of 26 May 1942, Rommel started a planned attack with the 15th and 21st Panzer Divisions, and the rest of the 90th Motorized Infantry Division, and the Italian Trieste and Ariete Divisions started the large encircling move south of Bir-Hakeim as planned. [6] The battle at Bir Hakeim was at remote oasis in the Libyan desert, and the former site of a Turkish fort. It is a new evidence that I have always been right! In 1983 the first prototype was finished and presented at the Satory Exhibition of that year. Development towards main battle tank projects such as the AMX-30 occurred soon afterwards.[14]. Modern Armour — The world's battle tanks today. They had to spread out somewhat to hold that sector against incursions by the German 3rd and 4th Panzer Divisions. In 1943, ten FCM 36 tanks captured by the Germans were converted into tank destroyers. Its innovative petro-electrical transmission, while allowing for easy steering, was insufficiently developed and led to a large number of breakdowns. The design was not intended for service in France, but as a successor to the AMX-32, the improved export version of the AMX-30. That's why we can say, without exaggerating, that Bir Hakeim greatly contributed to El-Alamein defensive success". [5] These vehicles were later issued to several ad hoc units, such as the 4th DCR (commanded by Charles de Gaulle) which received 39, part of 3e Cuirassiers, the 4th DLM (10), and some Corps-francs Motorisés (about 25). Light french tank destroyer. Tank destroyers vary widely from vehicle to vehicle, but they do share a number of things in common. By mid 1938 a hundred had been produced, 270 on 1 September 1939 and 246 delivered. Beginning in 1966, ten AMX-30s were assembled per month, and the first five were issued in August 1966 to the 501st Régiment de Chars de Combat. The Cavalry units alone were too few in number. Much design effort was put in this line of development resulting in the gigantic Char 2C, the most complex and technologically advanced tank of its day. The emphasis on the large destroyers and the long time of construction led to a deficit of numbers in destroyer strength in the French Navy. The resulting disorder and breakdown of most of its S 35s rendered this unit, the most powerful of all Allied divisions, impotent; it was defeated by the German 5th Panzerdivision on 17 May. At the start of the war, France had one of the largest tank forces in the world along with the Soviet, British and German forces. The German infantry launched a full attack, supported by the 15th Panzerdivision, with heavy barrages from the artillery. In the late 1990s, the French Army began to accept the new Leclerc main battle tank to replace the antiquated AMX-30. They were intended to drive off opposing destroyers with superior firepower. They have more powerful weapons than most other vehicles of their tier and are able to penetrate most targets they encounter. This project was developed under the influence of German tank destroyers of WWII. In one incident, a single Char B1 "Eure" was able to destroy thirteen German tanks within a few minutes in Stonne on 16 May 1940, all of them Panzer III and Panzer IV tanks. Setbacks the French military suffered were more related to strategy, tactics and organisation than technology and design. However, in April 1969, production was again reduced to ten per month. In Britain a single committee had coordinated design, while the major industries remained passive. Rommel's success in the north was very costly, and Rommel's wide flanking plan was proving riskier because of the resistance at Bir Hakeim (his right flank and supply route was threatened by this position). French tank destroyers have relatively weak armor at lower tiers, but have good guns. After hard fighting that cost the 2nd Division 35 tanks, 6 self-propelled guns, and 111 vehicles, von Choltitz, the German military governor of Paris, capitulated at the Hôtel Meurice. The French char de bataille Char B1 tank was a very formidable tank, with heavy cast and riveted armour, the same long 47 mm gun as in the S 35, and a hull-mounted 75 mm howitzer. At the start of hostilities in World War II, the French Navy had 71 destroyers in operation with 27 more under construction. The role of small unit leaders was to execute plans, not to take the initiative in combat. After this war, we will have to find allies able to contain a country which is able of military exploits that astonish the world like they are doing right now in Bir-Hakeim!". Design. The French Army also accepted a large number of variants, including 195 self-propelled howitzers, 44 AMX-30 Pluton tactical nuclear missile launchers, 183 AMX-30Rs, 134 AMX-30Ds and 48 engineer vehicles (AMX-30EBG). The cavalry had the similar Hotchkiss H 35, armed with the same 37 mm, as well as light recon tanks such as the AMR 35. The vehicle featured a 120-mm gun. It was utilised as far away as in China, during the Chinese Civil wars, and versions of the tank were used both against and by the Japanese during the invasion of China. But industrial initiative also led to swift advances. This new French tank destroyer line is very interesting so we will run through all tanks in the line to check out the guns and armour on each! When the French used tanks for the first time on 16 April 1917, during the Nivelle Offensive, they had four times more tanks available. The 2nd and 3rd DLM were concentrated in the Gembloux gap between Louvain and Namur, where there were no natural obstacles to impede a German advance. In 1939 a belated effort was made to improve flexibility and increase the number of radios. [citation needed]. The R 35 was mostly used to equip the independent tank battalions, an armoured reserve allocated at army level and intended to reinforce infantry divisions in breakthrough operations. Frieser, Karl-Heinz (2005). The Hardi class of 1932 was designed to have a 37 knot top end. Another 400 Saint-Chamond … The design was also developed by the Italians as the Fiat 3000 and the USSR as the T-18. French naval ship classes of World War II, Light Destroyer/Destroyer Escort/Torpedo Boat, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=French_World_War_II_destroyers&oldid=939762571, Articles with unsourced statements from January 2012, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 8 February 2020, at 15:42. Many use the 105mm for the high alpha, however the 75mm is the more consistent one. The R 35 was exported to Poland and Romania. After the division liberated Paris, it defeated a Panzer brigade during the armored clashes in Lorraine, forced the Saverne Gap, and liberated Strasbourg. Tobruk was taken 10 days later by Rommel's troops. Charles de Gaulle upon meeting him promoted him from Captain to Major (commandant) and ordered him to French Equatorial Africa as governor of French Cameroon from 29 August 1940 to 12 November 1940. This division - formed of the 132nd Armoured Regiment, equipped with M13/40s, of the 8th Reggimento bersaglieri and of the 132nd Artillery Regiment - attacked the French position from the rear in two successive waves. The French were not done in by the quality of tanks fielded during World War 2 but moreso by their management of armored forces during the German invasion of 1940. World of Tanks French Tanks | Tank Destroyer Line | Sau 40 (Tier 4) -> AMX 50 Foch B (Tier 10) SAu 40 (Tier 4) The SAu 40 has two very good top guns. The Free French used the battle to show the world that France was not the decadent nation it appeared to be after its catastrophic defeat in 1940. After the liberation of France, the next tank to be introduced would be the ARL 44 heavy tank, which came too late to participate in World War II, but was used post-war for a time. British General Ian Playfair said: "The lengthened defense of the French garrison played a major role in the re-establishment of the British troops in Egypt. In fact the FT was in many respects the first truly 'modern' tank having a layout that has been followed by almost all designs ever since: driver at the front; main armament in a fully rotating turret on top; engine at the rear. To balance the Italian threat, the 600-ton La Melpoméne [4] class was a group of 13 French torpedo boats built in 1933. Saved by wolanszkytom. [citation needed] General Claude Auchinleck said on June 12, 1942, about Bir Hakim: "The United Nations need to be filled with admiration and gratitude, in respect of these French troops and their brave General Koenig". After appropriate changes to the hull Despite the views of Estienne and later Charles de Gaulle, the French general staff failed in defining an effective military doctrine regarding their use, due to the division of labour between infantry and cavalry tanks. Units Built. Many considered the Fantasque class to be the epitome of this super destroyer concept. F2 and Soviet T-34. Armor is poor and mobility is average. Some of these units fought in Normandy in 1944, and there were still twelve S 35s listed as in German service on 30 December 1944. Allied troops were avoiding Paris, moving around it clockwise towards Germany. The French had planned for a defensive war and built tanks accordingly; infantry tanks were designed to be heavily armoured. Never saw mass production. The first units to be outfitted with the new tank were the 501st and 503rd tank regiments, followed by the 6th and 12th Cuirassier Regiments. Entries are listed below in alphanumeric order (1-to-Z). The T86 and T86E1 amphibious tank destroyers, as well as the T87 105 mm (4.13 in) amphibious Howitzer Motor Carriage, the T88 105 mm (4.13 in) Howitzer Motor Carriage and the Super Hellcat mounting the turret from the M36 turret were all tested, but … The highlight of this tank destroyer is definitely available guns. On long term, holding back Rommel allowed the British forces to escape from its meticulously planned annihilation. Let's Play - World Of Tanks - 7.4 Public Test v1 - French Tank Destroyers - Duration: 36:42. French production at first lagged behind the British. France exported the FT right up to World War II. It was designed along the lines of the Italian torpedo boats of that time, but due to its size and speed of 34.5 knots, the class is considered a light destroyer, or destroyer escort. A tank-destroyer center began training units at Fort Hood, Texas. At the end of 1937 the SA 35 gun became available and deliveries of the main production series could begin. On 1 September 1939, at the outbreak of war, 975 vehicles had been delivered out of 1070 produced; 765 were fielded by tank battalions in France. After US entry into World War II and the formation of the Tank Destroyer Force, a suitable vehicle was needed to equip the new battalions. French infantry divisions normally had no organic tank component. Rommel supposedly burnt this order: regardless, he never followed it and took Free French soldiers as regular POWs. By November 1941, the Army requested a vehicle with a gun in a fully rotating turret after other interim models were criticized for being too poorly designed. This is a Tank Destroyer A Stug 3. Previous models had been "box tanks", with a single crowded space combining the role of engine room, fighting compartment, ammunition stock and driver's cabin. French Destroyers and Torpedo Boats. French tanks were classified as their counterparts in Great Britain, in infantry and cavalry models, and some “chars de rupture” (breakthrough tanks). After the Fall of France, work on new designs, such as the Char G1, officially halted, although there was some clandestine designing done. Six tanks managed to infiltrate the French lines, avoiding mines and anti-tank fire, but they were eventually destroyed by very close range 75 mm fire, and the crews were captured. It would be Renault's excellent small tank design, the FT, incorporating a proper climbing face for the tracks, that was the first tank to incorporate a top-mounted turret with a full 360° traverse capability. 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Then industrial rivalry began to play a detrimental role: it created the heavy Char Saint-Chamond, a parallel development not ordered by the Army but approved by government through industrial lobby, which mounted much more impressive weaponry — its 75 mm was the most powerful gun fielded by any operational tank up till 1941 — but also combined many of the Schneider CA's faults with an even larger overhanging body. All tanks belonged to either the Infantry or the Cavalry. French development into tanks began during World War I as an effort to overcome the stalemate of trench warfare, and largely at the initiative of the manufacturers. They were issued to the 12e régiment de Chasseurs d'Afrique that, after French West Africa had sided with the Allies, operated them against German and Italian forces during the Tunisia Campaign. Ironically, cooperation with the infantry was poor. So Rommel sent the Trieste division, the 90th Light Infantry Division, and 3 recon armored regiments from the Pavia division against Bir Hakeim. This tank equipped the armoured divisions of the Cavalry which had to execute the exploitation phase of a battle and was probably the best combination of armour, firepower and mobility prior to the appearance of the German PzKpfw IV Ausf. In armour and firepower, French tanks were generally not inferior to their German counterparts. Of a total order for 2,300 at least 1,601 had been produced until 1 June 1940 serial numbers known to be actually used indicate a production of at least 1670 vehicles. Production in fact totalled 430 by June 1940, including the prototype and the preseries. The Roanne factory was responsible for final assembly, most components were made elsewhere: the powerplant by the Atelier de Construction de Limoges, the full armour set by the Ateliers et Forges de la Loire, the turret by the Atelier de Construction de Tarbes, the cannon by the Atelier de Construction de Bourges, the cupola and machine-gun by the Manufacture d'Armes de Saint-Étienne and the optics by the Atelier de Construction de Puteaux; all these again used many subcontractors. This heavy manufacturing factory was built during World War I to produce artillery shells, although by 1952 the factory had begun producing armoured fighting vehicles. [citation needed], Even Adolf Hitler responded to the journalist Lutz Koch, coming back from Bir Hakim: "You hear, Gentlemen? After the outbreak of war a fourth order of 200 was made, bringing the ordered total to 700. In May 1940 during the Battle of France the DLMs were tasked with the difficult manoeuvre of carrying out a quick advance into the Low Countries, followed by a holding action to allow the infantry divisions following behind to dig themselves in. Tank Destroyers Saltar a: navegación, buscar Tank Destroyers are vehicles designed specifically to destroy enemy tanks. Both types of units were very similar in equipment, training and organisation, as the German armoured divisions too were primarily intended for strategic exploitation, while the breakthrough phase was preferably left to the infantry. However north of Bir Hakeim, the 3rd Indian Motor Brigade had been annihilated, and two weakened British brigades - the 4th and the motorized 7th Armoured - were forced to retreat to Bir-el-Gubi and to The El-Adem, leaving Bir-Hakeim and the Free French Forces to fight the full brunt of Rommels forces. Tank destroyers are the most well armed direct-fire vehicles in the game, alongside indirect-fire artillery.Many tank destroyers lack a … [10] Winston Churchill was more terse: "Holding back for fifteen days Rommel's offensive, the free French of Bir Hakeim had contributed to save Egypt and the Suez Canal's destinies". If he were a platoon leader or company commander, he had the additional tasks of controlling his other units. On 23 December 1930 a first order of 70 main production series of Char D1 tanks was made, followed on 12 July 1932 by a second order of 30; the last order on 16 October 1933 was of 50 vehicles, for a total of 150, delivered between January 1932 and early 1935. This was the AMX-40 Main Battle Tank. In 2000, the RCs were upgraded to the Renové standard, and are expected to remain in service until 2020-2025, at which point they should be replaced by the EBRC Jaguar. After the June 1940 armistice, S 35s were allowed to be sent to West Africa to bolster the hold of the Vichy regime on that region. [2] Even German General Rommel was surprised at how the French tanks withstood the German tank shells and had to resort to using the German 88 artillery as antitank guns against the French tanks to knock them out. As a result of the involvement of inexperienced army officers ordered to devise a new tank based on the larger 75 hp Holt chassis in a very short period of time, the first French tanks were poorly designed with respect to the need to cross trenches and did not take the sponson-mounting route of the British tanks. Monthly production grew to 15–20 tanks as new factories began to manufacture components of the vehicle and existing factories increased their production potential. [1] The destroyers were built in two types the large destroyers and the small destroyers. The large destroyers were the largest and fastest in the world at that time. The S35 medium tank entered service in January 1936 with the 4e Cuirassiers. The destroyers were built in two types the large destroyers and the small destroyers. London: Arms and Armour Press. This was necessitated by the local tactical situation and did not reflect some fundamental difference in doctrine between the use of the DLMs and the Panzerdivisionen. French cavalry tank designs saw attempts to balance the needs of firepower, protection and mobility. Classic editor History Comments Share. However, the light tanks lacked firepower, tended to be slow, and almost all French tanks were weakened by their one-man turrets. Some were little more than stopgap solutions, mounting an anti-tank gun on a tracked vehicle to give mobility, while others were more sophisticated designs. Rommel then sent the Ariete Armoured Division - to attack Bir Hakeim from the southeast. On this date 191 served with the troops, 51 were in depot and four had been sent back to the factory for overhaul. 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